Abyssals

If you are a three day old new player, don't read this. Yet! :D 

Abyssal game play is some of the hardest content in eve, and I include that alongside doing solo pvp.  It's seriously hard on the upper end.  However, starting abyssals at Tier 0 only requires a properly fitted T1 frigate and that you be generally familiar with PvE mechanics, just doesn't make a ton of isk.

Abyssal tiers scale extremely fast in difficulty and investment levels, unlike almost every other form of tiered PvE activity. It is suggested that you be very familiar with your current tier of abyssal before moving up a tier.

Difficulty

T0 - aka tranquil, easy, like stepping out your door.  Like a Level 1 mission.  Punisher, condor, nearly any t1 frigate.

T1 - aka calm, Like walking down the street.  Level 3 mission difficulty.   Many navy or t2 frigates have options here!

T2 - aka agitated, Like doing a good jog down the street.  Level 4 mission difficulty.  Need good skills and can solo in a very few frigates.  Or start triple boxing frigates.

T3 - aka fierce, You're running a marathon now somehow!  And I have 20 minutes to finish.  Several decent navy, pirate, or t2 cruiser can speed run these all day.

T4 - aka raging, There are other professional runners in this marathon!  STILL 20 minutes?!? Several T2 cruisers with good skills and a touch of bling do these.

T5 - aka Chaotic, Is this Olympics suddenly? T4 was so easy! Starting down to a few groups of frigates and even fewer cruiser options doing these.

T6 - aka Cataclysmic, WHO THE FUCK IS SHOOTING WHILE I'M TRYING TO RUN HERE?!?!  Need a ton of isk, max SP, with very very few, very blingy ships generally.

It escalates that fast.  In T6, you EXPECT to die every so often.  That's how hard it is.

Weather 

Weather is the term for the plus and negative of each of the sites.  They apply to all ships in the site, so the enemies as well as you, so can be a positive to you!   These range from -30% to -70% negatives, and 50% in the positives.

To read these, if you get a "Raging Exotic Filament", that is a T4 Exotic aka kinetic resist penalty, so need REALLY strong kinetic resists and do kinetic damage in these.  The enemies are unique to that type as well.

https://caldarijoans.streamlit.app/Abyssal_FAQ has more precise details.  https://janice.e-351.com/a/eimgYh has a break down of the cost of the different filaments, live.

Starting out

The usual recommendation for new players is to start at t0, see how they like it, then start fitting for the tier above and run the ones below it.  So fit for T2, run T1.   On the high end, fit for T5, run T4.   From t0-t3, flying to the exit can is usually fine, you'll survive.  At t4+ and above, you have to pay attention to clouds and pylons.

The key is to go 'fast'.  You want to kill everything in a hurry.  People die in abyssals not because of tank, but always because they didn't kill enough fast enough.  You think it's about tanking the site, nope, it's always the DPS race versus the SHORT 20 minute clock.  So work on Murder Faster. 

You need replacement ships reserved.  If you are short on money, this is NOT the activity for you.

You used to be able to run things on a test site, but that is now gone: Singularity is down for good

Note: If you're looking for pricing on abyssal modules, https://mutaplasmid.space/appraisal/ makes that easy, you sell these on contracts.  But for better guide, look at the contract pricing.

Thanks to Fim Astatru, Hokaba Michael, and Qazska for the help on the text, but the real expert is Caldari Jones and the Abyssal lurkers discord, talk to them!  #new-player-questions regularly confuses min-max PVPers that don't understand that button pushing matters more than just skill points, ships, fits, and isk.

What you have to know beforehand

Before you start doing abyssals, you need to have really good button pushing skills and some isk as a buffer. You will lose ships in abyssal space.  IF you don't have money, this is NOT the content for you!

You also need good PVP knowledge.  This could be ratting knowledge but you have to hold 10 things in your head at once:

If you can do this, and press buttons on your ship, then maybe you have a shot?

You have three types of ships - Cruisers, Destroyers, Frigates

Pandemic Horde Specific tutorial

This is a tutorial from Fim Asatru on general abyssal for newish players.  It's easy to get into, the fit is below.   You do need 2 other people to do these with you, though.  You can try to recruit people in game or friends.  Something you can consider.

With my good skills and 2 other newbies, we were able to complete one in about 10 minutes.  costs around 84k for the filaments, make around 12 mil a run, so maybe 72 mil total, so 24 mil an hour per player due to good skills?  Can be lower around 5-7 mil an hour.  But can go up as your skills get better.

To enter, you need 3 pilots in their own fleet/squad.   Everyone needs to set their safety yellow in the top left corner of their capacitor.

These are doing darks because they are cheap, the bonuses match up to the ship, and a lot of enemies use turrets, so helps you.

If you are going to run in null sec, make sure to make a 'deep safe' before starting.  And you never warp there directly, you always warp to another safe first that leads to a gate.  A deep safe is one that is more 19 au (celestial + sites 4 au from celestials) from any other object in system.  Incursions make these easy, you just bookmark different sites in the incursion.  Or you can run an abyssal at downtime.

You also disconnect your API from zkill if you can, if you run these professionally, because otherwise people might target you.

Thanks to Fim Asatru for this tutorial!

Suggested guides

Anyway, I'm just going to do a couple links here, will try to expand while I go.


https://discord.com/invite/ppk7B7Y - The Abyssal Lurkers Discord.  


https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-resources-webapp-from-caldari-joans/383504 Abyssal Lurkers webpage

https://caldarijoans.streamlit.app/Tier_1_Solo_Frigates - to do tier 1s, you need 3 filaments to do frigate ones.

https://caldarijoans.streamlit.app/Starter_Abyssal_Fits

https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Alpha_to_Omega_abyssal_track

DO NOT PAY ATTENTION TO ACEFACE.  He will get you killed.  Read the comments first.

Mostly, check youtube with the tier (and ship) you want to run: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=eve+online+abyssal+t3


Note, Warn Michael from Eveo discord said:

Torvald and Caldari Joansmake good trustworthy vids

There is an abyssal discord with WAY more information as well.

Running Abyssals

The key is to get a deep safe.  If you don't do this, people can probe you down and overwhelm you with catalysts, even in high sec.  Null is almost safer for this because it's easy to blend in with a deep safe. :)

This is 19 au from any gate for large systems.   Or more than 19 au from ANYTHING for small systems.  This doesn't stop them from probing you down, just makes it less likely to happen.

To get these is very doable with certain conditions:

Make sure to remove your ESI from zkill and do NOT add your losses.  Or people will locator agent you.

Also, make sure to always warp to a DIFFERENT safe spot than your deep safe, I like warping to a safe near a gate, so it looks like you jumped out a gate.  Doesn't have to be far.

T0 Amarr

This is a fit to run a t0 elec filament. Note, you need 3 of the correct difficulty and weather.  any variation and you generally die, usually because of lack of DPS.


[Punisher, HateLesS' Day1 electrical Abyss]

Small I-a Enduring Armor Repairer

Extruded Compact Heat Sink

Damage Control II

Extruded Compact Heat Sink

Small I-a Enduring Armor Repairer


1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner

Small Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery


Small Focused Modal Laser I

Small Focused Modal Laser I

Small Focused Modal Laser I

Small Focused Modal Laser I


Small Energy Locus Coordinator I

Small Auxiliary Thrusters I

Small Energy Collision Accelerator I



Imperial Navy Multifrequency S x4

Imperial Navy Xray S x4

Imperial Navy Standard S x4

Imperial Navy Microwave S x4


T0 Caldari

The NBI Condor we give out in Newbeans now:

[Condor, NBI Condor ABYSS]

Ballistic Control System I

Ballistic Control System I


Parallel Enduring Target Painter

Small Clarity Ward Enduring Shield Booster

1MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner

Small Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery


TE-2100 Ample Light Missile Launcher

TE-2100 Ample Light Missile Launcher

TE-2100 Ample Light Missile Launcher


Small Warhead Flare Catalyst I

Small Capacitor Control Circuit I

Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I



Scourge Light Missile x1144

Tranquil Dark Filament x6

T2 Dark Meta times three

You need three players to do this one, but this can do T2 Dark.   If you cannot do three accounts, you need two friends to run them.  See Fim Asatru's video above.

Need the anchor to have 3 Agitated Dark Filaments.

[Caldari Navy Hookbill, T2 Dark Meta v3]

Ballistic Control System II

Ballistic Control System II


1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner

Small Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery

Small Shield Extender II

Cap Recharger II

Small C5-L Compact Shield Booster


Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher

Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher

Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher


Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I

Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I

Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I



Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile x2000

Beyond T2 -- The Gila

If you start to go up in tiers, it gets more expensive and i do NOT recommend these for new players.

https://abysstracker.com/fit/6580 has the povertila, to quote:

Takeda Sanjo — 2023/05/2023 on eveo discord

Always get them started with the Povertila, you can make decent bank with low SP in T4 exotics with that tbh

If they are doing exotics, just swap the EM rig for a Therm. The EM rig is only included as the fit is suppose to also do T3 Electricals.
Tbh the other tiers people will just figure out as they gain experience

I'm sure @Somtaaw probably has good experiance with a passive Gila, and i'm just being a bit... Zealous.

Tbh when I first started I did use a passive gila setup in t4 gammas, I just cringe from the memory :KEK:

Povertilla

And a gila fit that was shared with me, not sure the weather or difficulty but ... that's what abyssal lurkers is for.   This is an 'active' fit', requiring cap to run.

[Gila, Abyssal Gila v2.0]

Drone Damage Amplifier II

Drone Damage Amplifier II

Drone Damage Amplifier II


10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner

Shield Boost Amplifier II

Medium Shield Booster II

Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery

Multispectrum Shield Hardener II

Multispectrum Shield Hardener II


Rapid Light Missile Launcher II

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II

[Empty High slot]

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II


Medium Core Defense Operational Solidifier I

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II

Medium Core Defense Operational Solidifier I




Hammerhead II x10


Scourge Fury Light Missile x1000

Mjolnir Precision Light Missile x1000

Guristas Nova Light Missile x1000


This fit was shared with me as well, but is 'slow'.  Cap usage is minimal, but can be vulnerable to neut pressure.

[Gila, T5 Exotic (Passive)]

Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier

Caldari Navy Shield Power Relay

Caldari Navy Shield Power Relay


Republic Fleet Shield Recharger

Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner

Thukker Large Shield Extender

Thukker Large Shield Extender

Thukker Large Shield Extender

Thukker Large Shield Extender


Drone Link Augmentor II

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II


Medium Core Defense Field Purger II

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II



Vespa II x2



Zainou 'Deadeye' Rapid Launch RL-1003

Mid-grade Nirvana Alpha

Mid-grade Nirvana Beta

Mid-grade Nirvana Delta

Mid-grade Nirvana Epsilon

Mid-grade Nirvana Gamma

Mid-grade Nirvana Omega

Zainou 'Gnome' Shield Management SM-705

Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link

Zainou 'Gnome' Shield Operation SP-905


Agency 'Overclocker' SB3 Dose I



Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile x20

Nanite Repair Paste x100

Scourge Fury Light Missile x2060


And if you are impatient, don't have a wallet ready to spend, and are short on money, this is the wrong activity for you.  Why not check out the Beginner Activities.